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RES-866 Qualitative Analysis Assignment: Transcript 3

1-D Transcript:

Researcher: [00:00:01] OK great so we’re recording, and I’ve gone through the introduction of confidentiality.

Researcher: [00:00:05] I’ll just go ahead and move forward with my questions here.

Researcher: [00:00:09] So what types of social support did you receive during your doctoral program.

1-D: [00:00:16] What type of what support.

Researcher: [00:00:18] Social support did.

1-D: [00:00:20] You mean on a personal level or in general.

Researcher: [00:00:24] In general whatever applies to you.

1-D: [00:00:26] Actually we’re in a bit of a unique situation because my husband is in the military and our families are thousands of miles away. So, I think my biggest self supports in this journey. My husband of course was behind me, but he was not really there to know how time-consuming it was but then over time once the course work was done.

1-D: And once I found a little bit about you know changing that dissertation committee to people that I was actually working well with, then I had the committee members to really cheer me on and help me along with the Journey.

1-D: [00:01:09] But in regard to people around me family of course knew about it but there was no one like actually present physically. So, it was more me. I was my biggest social support, if that makes sense.

Researcher: [00:01:24] Absolutely. And any support that you did receive. What would you feel was most impactful for you in regards to any support that you received from other people?

1-D: 00:01:36] Actually I actually received more non-support if that makes sense like I had people at work were either jealous or thinking that I was overextending even though I didn’t show these signs so done lack of support was actually what kept me going the most because I knew I didn’t like I barely spoke about it because if I spoke about it then people felt Oh it must impacted because it would impact me. So just showing everyone that it can be done quickly and it can be done well.

1-D: [00:02:09] Drove me more white than the people who actively asked about it which was only like one or two. One of them being my husband one of them being my mom.

1-D: [00:02:18] So it’s actually the opposite of what you would expect.

Researcher: [00:02:24] When you were presented with particularly difficult challenges throughout your journey what types of strategies would you use to stay optimistic.

1-D: [00:02:33] I’m the type of person when I start something I want to get it done and then to be honest. As you well know the program is not exactly free, so I was self-paying knowing that each class runs close to $2000.

1-D: [00:02:48] It’s not something that I let my personal or professional life interfere with. Like I feel as a university professor. I actually I was teaching it when.

1-D: [00:03:01] My boss would if except maybe one slack. And then I would have gotten a warning so I could never bring my personal life and we deal with a lot of things deployments and all these things you know right now it’s quiet in the world but at that time my husband had big deployments with no contact. She wouldn’t have that. And so I also wouldn’t allow my folks. So I used the same mindset for my Ph.D. I just treated it as a business commitment that I made with myself and my bank account.

1-D: [00:03:31] The best way to stay motivated was to keep going forward. So this is what I did.

1-D: [00:03:38] I didn’t I didn’t do I didn’t use excuses I didn’t allow myself to use anything you know to be an excuse.

Researcher: [00:03:46] Kind of use your work situation is a way to be strategic about your doctoral program.

1-D: [00:03:53] Correct. And also you know just a financial situation. I knew that if I slacked in a class especially later in the dissertation classes. If I don’t turn around my work very quickly then I’m giving a school free money. So I cannot control the committee’s work like if they want to take 14 days or even longer then that’s something that’s out of my control for when the ball was in my park. I got it moving within five days. And if that meant not sleeping that meant not sleeping for me that kept me going like I didn’t want to drop the ball in my court.

Researcher: [00:04:36] What kind of support did you receive from your committee or other faculty in the program.

1-D: [00:04:43] Initially in my very first committee consultation I’m pretty much none. It was actually a very big pain to get a hold of my chair. There was limited Correspondence with the methodologist. So, after watching it for a few weeks I reached out to the school. I reached out. There was not much support initially. I know it’s you know I can understand that position, but I wasn’t making it up. And then I also contacted my residency professors and they eventually helped me get the change done.

1-D: [00:05:29] And once that change was done they realized before the first dissertation was I had a really solid proposal ready to go. It wasn’t perfect but it was you know a very high quality for what you usually see.

1-D: So it was easy for them to cheer on and to keep moving and they were I kept all my weekly appointments I made sure that if the professor wasn’t available I immediately rescheduled. You know sometimes things came up for mom and I was immediately like OK then that’s do, tomorrow like I never let time pass I was.

1-D: [00:06:04] And that they liked that because it’s obviously not something they had experienced a lot someone so driven.

1-D: [00:06:10] So it was a very professional and yet friendly environment and for all intents and what really helped me was I had met every single committee member in person two at residency and one at a professional conference so. They would also not that we have private chats. But it was a really professional comfortable level. So there were other reasons for them to check in as well.

1-D: So that was very nice and that was the biggest support that they appreciated my work and pushed me forward because It was easy for them to move me along.

Researcher: [00:06:49] How do you feel that their support impacted your success.

1-D: [00:06:56] To be honest the people who didn’t fight as hard as I did and are either still with the same committee members or had a change later. They are still not approved by AQR one.

1-D: So the level two AQR so without my being so supportive and without my two residency professors volunteering to help me make that change and actually take me on as their own I would probably still be working on my dissertation. So without them I would have never stuck to that timeline as close as I did.

Researcher: [00:07:30] What about peers and maybe other peers in the program. Did you interact with them were get any support from them?

1-D: [00:07:37] Yes I had. I connected with about five people in my cohort when I met residents in person we’re very close personally and another one and I didn’t meet until graduation. She lives in Phoenix. We were already talking and it was but it was more a like morale kind of support. So we didn’t really use our connection to.

1-D: Talk about what we were doing like during classes or during the dissertation phase but more the process when you need to vent when you have an issue and you reach out and you didn’t get that answer you needed or at the time in the timeframe so we used it more for the logistics support. But to connect with people is really nice. And then to be honest I was one of the. I was the furthest ahead I was also the first of my cohort to actually complete the degree. So having some who are further behind which I connected to residency some of them were like oh the struggles you have I’m not going to have this I’m not going to let GCU do this to me. Now in dissertation class 8 or 9 I am and I never even reached that price in the dissertation classes.

1-D: So you know that got me going extra hard because I was like I’m not stupid like if I tell you I have this issue then I’m having this issue like I’ve tried everything. So it was both like a little competitive to show them how it’s done and also morally just like a place an outlet a vent sharing and also of course cheering each other on.

Researcher: [00:09:16] Absolutely. How important do you feel that that Support that you all gave to each other how important was that to you and your success.

1-D: [00:09:24] Absolutely important because Like I said in my actual life like in my physical environment it was actually no support.

1-D: There was nobody there who could also understand and I’m sure you’ve experienced people who say oh it’s online it’s just getting a degree, not understanding how much work and effort we put in and that it’s partially harder because you can knock on the professor’s door and just say here I am. Let’s get this done. So having people over time to build a connection with that went through the same thing was very helpful even if it wasn’t like content wise in any way helpful.

1-D: But just like I said like the emotional support. Being in the same position in a way was very helpful and I wish there had been things sooner in the program to help us connect.

1-D: [00:10:15] And while we tried with like forum threads you know it just sometimes goes nowhere. So I know they’re making changes to the program where residency is actually required for PHDs as well. And that’s amazing I think that’s really going to help people be more. Like committed to their own program to their own journey.

Researcher: [00:10:37] Absolutely. And I wish, I didn’t have to do residency either. How would you describe your overall attitude toward approaching difficult situations in your program?

1-D: [00:10:49] I’m always like get it done kind of person, sometimes I do so much that unfortunately I can do all things [unintelligible].

1-D: [00:11:07] So you know sometimes that overextends I’m the person I get it done I get it done well. But it may not be 100 percent. But in regards to my academic and professional commitment and the work that I deliver is very good work. So I think anything that I commit to I get done I don’t miss deadlines.

Even Like I said if I have to cut out all sleep in the world I get it done even though I may feel I’m starting too late. I get it done and whatever the end product is I know it’s something for me to be proud of. It doesn’t mean that it could not have been better.

1-D: But that’s always the case I think. So I’m very determined and I was from the beginning. I remember one of the very first assignments was to write about how time management and how to get it done. Never been an issue of mine so. Oh. Yeah.

Researcher: [00:12:04] How do you feel that your level of optimism in your attitude impacted your journey and your overall success.

1-D: [00:12:12] I think it’s always one of the big key factors I think it also for me a lot of things have to do with identity. So if I really identify what I’m doing if I subscribe to it 100 percent that means that I am positive about it and that means that optimism gets you through the hurdles that you will encounter.

1-D: Like there is no way not to encounter any issues when you commit to a 4-6-year program. So being positive about it and identifying with it gets you through and that keeps you positive.

1-D: [00:12:46] So it was the key factor for me.

Researcher: [00:12:48] What types of coping strategies which is when you were presented with difficulty.

1-D: so I usually, Had during the week I got the reading done I prepared for the discussions on the weekends on Friday night I started with papers Saturday and got them out I had until Wednesday to submit them. So whenever it got really rough I just really clung to that routine because if you allow yourself to be overwhelmed and overpowered by whatever difficulty you face, That’s how you actually fall off the wagon. And that’s how the problem just grows from there. And then the train leaves and you’re still sitting at the station.

1-D: So I never, Every time it got difficult regardless of how frustrated I was I would stick to what I knew or at least got me forward moving so. That was my coping strategy.

Researcher: [00:13:52] What personal characteristics do you feel most impacted your ability to complete your program.

1-D: [00:13:59] Commitment determination. Positivity. Just my personal drive. Funnily way a lot of people joke because my topic included cognitive load theory and people have seven plus minus 2 spaces. People always say that I have 13. I think it doesn’t matter how much I’ve done I’d rather become more effective.

1-D: [00:14:28] So yeah I guess that’s my strength.

Researcher: [00:14:33] What types of physical activities did you participate in your program.

1-D: 00:14:39] Swimming. Jogging walking. I did a lot of sitting in the car so I drove 500 miles for a commute. So I really needed that outlet. And actually especially in the water swimming laps three times a week.

1-D: I always read my assignment first, and then I worked on it you know mentally an outlet in the water. And that way I was ready to read what I needed to find for research and really helps clear your mind. Or when you’re really upset because you had a phone call and didn’t go your way or you. Get some sunlight. Some vitamin D, clear your mind.

Researcher: [00:15:26] How much time do you take for yourself each week during your program.

1-D: [00:15:34] Actually my Ph.D. was what I did for myself. And exercise. So we didn’t have a baby yet or anything. That was a little bit easier. My husband. On the one hand it’s hard when with military because they’re gone a lot but at the same time it gave me a lot of freedom. It didn’t you know I didn’t have to keep dinner times or whatever. So the PHD time I don’t know sometimes 20 plus hours a week depending on whether it was assignment week or not or whether I was in the research part or not. That was my me time. I really actually enjoyed solving the problems. And you know getting good answers and creating the Best work possible.

Researcher: [00:16:19] How do you feel that it being such a personal thing for you. How do you feel that impacted your success?

1-D: [00:16:28] Oh again absolutely like for me I’m an identity person so If I commit to something and then it becomes part of me. And when you really you can only be 100 percent successful and driven if you commit to something.

1-D: [00:16:45] So it was yeah.

Researcher: [00:16:50] How did you, every time you did something, a success or a milestone How did you recognize or celebrate those successes.

1-D: [00:16:59] by moving toward focusing on the next one. I actually didn’t really allow myself to get too excited. It was an expectation of myself. You see I’m really hard on myself I guess. So for me celebrating was I told my husband. It doesn’t matter where we live. I said to my husband I want to walk and regardless of where we live because with the military we were facing a move, that is going to be when I’m celebrating a milestone. So doesn’t matter how much that’s going to cause that’s part of what we plan for. So that was the first time I actually allowed myself to really recognize and just enjoy and go all out and if that makes sense, it was an expectation for me to get through milestones and get good grades and move forward.

Researcher: [00:18:04] And when. How would you describe the level of control that you felt you had over your dissertation journey?

1-D: [00:18:13] I really depended on the process I have to say that it’s very different now that I’m finished. I think I understand both sides a little better. Also I assisted a couple of learners, and helped with editing a little bit. And I see the committee’s Work and timeline a little bit differently now. But during that time, I don’t know I think, repeat the question one more time.

Researcher: [00:18:44] How would you describe the level of control that you had over your journey.

1-D: [00:18:48] So initially I felt we had a lot of control. Then I realized you don’t really control the situation. You get it done. So once you really need to understand that as a learner, What you want to do initially that’s really great but in a dissertation you do one teeny step forward and there are a lot of guidelines in to get this done. So I guess, you control your acceptance rather than the actual dissertation and if you try to control your actual dissertation too much you’re not going to move forward. You’re going to get stuck because you need to meet these guidelines and those requirements not from GCU but for dissertations to be successful. So once I understood that I was moving forward then I felt in control again. If that makes sense.

1-D: [00:19:44] Why do you feel that was important and your ability to accept that.

1-D: [00:19:51] Do I feel it was important?

Researcher: [00:19:53] How important was that for you to be able to complete.

1-D: [00:19:56] It was absolutely a key factor to understand that also that the committee is not trying to hold you back or limit you but they actually try to help you understand that there’s only so much you can do if you want to get it finished.
But that was not enough taught in the classes before at that time. Again I know the program is changing and I think it’s a very good change but I think that could have been emphasized a little bit more because a lot of people that are still working on the dissertation for my cohort they still have not understood that.

1-D: [00:20:27] So I’m kind of helping them get there and also like value like AQR is not stopping you. They’re actually helping you. They’re really going to try to make it the best they can that they are not the nicest that comes from the workload. But I feel like that is the biggest struggle for most of us. I was just lucky that you know I worked with a lot of rubrics I worked with a lot of guidelines. I teach writing and you know so I’m in a university setting so once I made that connection once I understood that, and once my committee was a good one for me. It’s absolutely important and it’s one of the keys as well.

Researcher: [00:21:03] During your doctoral program, how did you feel about your ability to complete your dissertation?

1-D: [00:21:10] Oh it was never a question for me. It was not it’s not something I asked myself. There was no way obviously I had days work in the very beginning I was nervous and like am I ever going to really have a topic isn’t quite strong enough. But I realized quickly that I at least had an idea. Not everyone did and it was never a question for me whether or not I was going to be successful. It was a daunting task at first but it just, get started.

1-D: [00:21:36] Oh yeah. I never doubted I was going to get it done.

1-D: [00:21:41] And then how would you describe your level of spirituality during your program.

1-D: [00:21:46] Well it was at a Christian school that we chose I think our faith is a really big one. Whichever way you want to interpret it you need to believe in something to keep moving forward especially when the going gets rough. And when things don’t go your way because when there’s an issue the school there’s usually one at home or at work or you know things always come at once. And the biggest is I remember how daunting my statistics class was and with having faith in you know whatever I believe in. And also in myself and my family would not have been able to do what…

1-D: I had to travel overseas. I didn’t have an internet. And I had to work ahead. It was the worst class for me in regards to personal fear. So it had played a huge role in moving forward. You know without believing without spirituality I would not have gotten through some of those.

Researcher: [00:22:52] Great. If you had to kind of identify one thing that really just impacted you the most throughout your program and your ability to complete it. What do you think that would be?

1-D: [00:23:02] Just my personal drive to have that degree. It’s something that I really wanted.

1-D: [00:23:11] And I wanted to earlier I wanted to actually go get my master’s Ph.D. But then I realized it was better off financially to work first and to find a program I really wanted not just to commit to some something because it was available because I was working full time at U&D I could have had any program for free.

1-D: But yes so just my personal desire to really have it on my resume. And you know complete that.

Researcher: [00:23:40] Wonderful. Well that was all the questions I had. Did you have any comments or any questions for me?

1-D: [00:23:48] I’m curious like how you feel about your journey. Curious what cohort you were like when you started.

Researcher: [00:23:56] I started in October of 2013, so I’ve been in three and a half years. And it’s definitely been interesting.

1-D: [00:24:05] So you are moving fast though, you are doing data collection now.

Researcher: [00:24:10] Yeah. And I should be done in the next few months. You know now that I’m now when I’m doing this I know I’ll finish very quickly. And so you know it is interesting because I have two young children and you know working full time and all that. And then it’s really been a challenge but you know like you I’m very self-driven and I know I’ll get it done. There’s no doubt about it.

1-D: [00:24:32] I’m out now definitely I mean you get this behind you. Nothing really qualitative is a little bit more time consuming and difficult. That was the thing that really kept me going. Once I went past the statistics class and I was like I can actually do this and I decided to stay quantitative. I mean I was able to collect my data within. Three days of IRB approval. And I was I had my 4 & 5 drafted I think within. Three weeks of data collection. So obviously for you that’s a little bit longer. But I think once you once you have permission to collect your data it’s a race downhill. I mean it’s you know your ears flapping in the wind just like that.

Researcher: [00:25:21] I know. Yeah I have that feeling so you know it’s definitely fun and I would never have thought I’d do a qualitative study. I’m a very quantitative person, but it’s definitely been a really good thing for me. So I’m glad I chose that now.

1-D: [00:25:35] Like with the interactions you’re getting.

Researcher: [00:25:37] Yeah it’s been great it’s been a learning process.

Researcher: [00:25:39] So it’s been really great.

1-D: [00:25:41] Are you sharing your Results in with GCU as well?

Researcher: [00:25:43] I’m sorry.

1-D: [00:25:44] Will you share your results with GCU.

Researcher: [00:25:46] Yes absolutely. You know I’m I since I work in the college you know it’s a really big goal for me to help maybe shape some experiences and maybe come up with some good ways to help our learners through the program.

Researcher: [00:25:58] And you know get them prepared ahead of time so that you know they might have better success.

1-D: [00:26:04] Then I’m curious what you think about the change GCU is making for the program.

Researcher: [00:26:13] I think they’re great. You know I think the really good changes you know being able to kind of watch the growth of the program has been really cool. And the residency is like. I agree. I think this is a really important thing that. [recording ended

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